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1:02

Words from John

John

• Team Keck proposals were good

• JO will be on KPF tonight trying some non-RV targets including some submitted from this group

• Director handover begins on Tuesday

• No new info about search other than job ad has been posted

• Thanks to all hosting visitors recently

• Great to see KCWI back on deck

1:08

Words from Randy

Randy

• Carolyn has distributed draft semester B schedule

• Complicated semester, pier repair, AO down time, KPF down time, LRIS down time

1:11

Inexperienced Observer Policy

Josh

• Are we still holding to the old policy?

• Observers should still come to HQ on first run

• Known workaround is for new observers to observe with an experienced observer

• Jim: is there a carrot? Provide summit tour rides?

1:16

LIGO expectations

Michael

• LIGO is starting up again, officially turned on O4, will last ~18 months

• More pressure from community to do snapshot cadence and other types of cadence

• 8 alerts in last week (which includes engineering time), but not all are of interest

• Expect some ToOs

1:22

TDA policy review

Randy

• A few years ago SSC looked at ToOs with expectation of LIGO

• ToOs which land across split night is not addressed in policy, but can be done with real time negotiations. Policy is to interrupt one program

  • Institution who is interrupted is paid back 2:1 (2 hours per 1 hour of interruption), thus makes crossing program boundaries difficult

• Quarter nights are not interruptible

• ToOs in progress are not interruptible

• Carolyn: policy says that fractional nights are interruptible?

• • Need to recheck TORT code

  • Randy: yes this was modified, so that partial nights are interruptible

• John: it is interrupter’s responsibility to do observations and take cals

• Randy: this will require us to have standby instruments ready. Be aware of your instrument’s status and whether it is available for ToOs.

• Rosalie: what if we don’t support the instrument?

  • John: expectation is that ToO observer is familiar with the instrument

• Cadence pressure

  • Got allocation for many nights of short observations which we do not have a way to implement

  • Policy allows for up to six 1 hour observations (similar to ToO interrupts)

  • This PI asked for 20 minutes (30 min with overheads) every night for 30 consecutive nights (HIRES, KPF, NIRSPEC)

  • We have no mechanism for this

  • Caltech will have them work with CPS

• NIKUG wants more of stuff like this as well

1:52

Team work

Jim

• Reach out for help!

• Our workflow changed during COVID, coming back now

• Remember there is a team here to help. If you have challenge put out email or slack message to see if there’s help.

1:55

FY 24 CI

Randy

• In FY 24, we will have funded CI projects again.

1:59

Pau!

• Greg has volunteered to facilitate next meeting